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	<title>Comments on: Negative Alpha Is Built Into 130/30 Funds</title>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://thedealsleuth.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/negative-alpha-is-built-into-13030-funds/#comment-3680</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.  FYI I calculated something similar when using index futures which allow 5% performance margin.  Here is my analysis:

I have $100m of assets
I think that Russell 2000 will outperform the S&amp;P 500
I buy $130m worth of Russell 2000 index futures
I short sell $30m worth of S&amp;P 500 index futures
Performance margin requirements = 5% x 160m = $8m
Lost interest on $8m @ 4% (just an average) is $320,000 or 32bp of the original amount

And that analysis suggests that in a higher interest rate climate, the impact of the performance  margin (or in your analysis, the collateral) is also higher.

Thanks,
Tristan Yates
Author:  Enhanced Indexing Strategies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  FYI I calculated something similar when using index futures which allow 5% performance margin.  Here is my analysis:</p>
<p>I have $100m of assets<br />
I think that Russell 2000 will outperform the S&amp;P 500<br />
I buy $130m worth of Russell 2000 index futures<br />
I short sell $30m worth of S&amp;P 500 index futures<br />
Performance margin requirements = 5% x 160m = $8m<br />
Lost interest on $8m @ 4% (just an average) is $320,000 or 32bp of the original amount</p>
<p>And that analysis suggests that in a higher interest rate climate, the impact of the performance  margin (or in your analysis, the collateral) is also higher.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Tristan Yates<br />
Author:  Enhanced Indexing Strategies</p>
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		<title>By: Monday links: double dose of fees &#171; Abnormal Returns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monday links: double dose of fees &#171; Abnormal Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] drag of reduced short interest rebates on 130/30 funds. (Deal Sleuth via Kirk [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Deal Sleuth</title>
		<link>http://thedealsleuth.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/negative-alpha-is-built-into-13030-funds/#comment-3421</link>
		<dc:creator>The Deal Sleuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David has an excellent analysis of the FAJ article (&lt;em&gt;Long-Short Extensions: How Much Is Enough?&lt;/em&gt; by Clarke, De Silva, Sapra and Thorley) on his website linking the FAJ article to our negative alpha: 
http://www.bionicturtle.com/learn/article/how_to_include_incremental_costs_in_extension_strategies_like_130_30/

Another interesting follow-up is Greg Boop&#039;s post on his HingeFire blog: http://hingefire.blogspot.com/2008/02/will-13030-funds-hold-water.html

Finally, HedgeWorld summarized the problem in a great article by Emma Trincal (by way of AllAboutAlpha):
http://allaboutalpha.com/blog/2008/03/13/manager-we-would-look-at-short-extension-funds-for-the-next-big-mutual-fund-scandal/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David has an excellent analysis of the FAJ article (<em>Long-Short Extensions: How Much Is Enough?</em> by Clarke, De Silva, Sapra and Thorley) on his website linking the FAJ article to our negative alpha:<br />
<a href="http://www.bionicturtle.com/learn/article/how_to_include_incremental_costs_in_extension_strategies_like_130_30/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bionicturtle.com/learn/article/how_to_include_incremental_costs_in_extension_strategies_like_130_30/</a></p>
<p>Another interesting follow-up is Greg Boop&#8217;s post on his HingeFire blog: <a href="http://hingefire.blogspot.com/2008/02/will-13030-funds-hold-water.html" rel="nofollow">http://hingefire.blogspot.com/2008/02/will-13030-funds-hold-water.html</a></p>
<p>Finally, HedgeWorld summarized the problem in a great article by Emma Trincal (by way of AllAboutAlpha):<br />
<a href="http://allaboutalpha.com/blog/2008/03/13/manager-we-would-look-at-short-extension-funds-for-the-next-big-mutual-fund-scandal/" rel="nofollow">http://allaboutalpha.com/blog/2008/03/13/manager-we-would-look-at-short-extension-funds-for-the-next-big-mutual-fund-scandal/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, 

That&#039;s great, really helpful. btw, your exhibit looks correct but the 18bps should match the 12bps (=20%*30%*2% = 12bps). 

The FAJ just published a study that incorporates this cost (the borrowing spread) into the IR/IC metric (it&#039;s about time that got adjusted for costs!). They went even further than you on costs. They add the above &quot;Explicit&quot; costs plus they add &quot;implicit&quot; operational cost of adding the extension strategy.

David Harper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, </p>
<p>That&#8217;s great, really helpful. btw, your exhibit looks correct but the 18bps should match the 12bps (=20%*30%*2% = 12bps). </p>
<p>The FAJ just published a study that incorporates this cost (the borrowing spread) into the IR/IC metric (it&#8217;s about time that got adjusted for costs!). They went even further than you on costs. They add the above &#8220;Explicit&#8221; costs plus they add &#8220;implicit&#8221; operational cost of adding the extension strategy.</p>
<p>David Harper</p>
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