Clarium’s Peter Thiel Is Bearish On Innovation

Peter ThielAt Thurday’s 2009 Investor Leadership Forum hosted by the Argyle Executive Forum and Capital IQ Peter a speech by Thiel of Paypal and Clarium fame linked future economic growth to innovation and technology rather than government stimulus.

Peter started by noting the difference in the type of question asked today of emerging markets and the developed world. For emerging markets, the discussion is about how well they will do over the next 20 years. For the developed world, the concern is whether the entire system will collapse within the next six months. Thiel wants to take a different approach and think about the developed world in 20 years. He believes that the growth of science and technology will drive the developed world and will offset the economic headwinds that we are facing, including inflation. His overall thought is that science and technology are broken because there is not enough innovation. He contrasts three facts with the bullishness of VCs, startup companies and scientists

1. VCs made no money in 11 years. (We wonder whether this is really an issue because the nature of venture capital has changed so much in the 1990s. Venture capital is no longer pools of entrepreneurs who invest in other business with a profit motive but has become an asset class where financial products are structured to be sold to institutions with a goal of generating a management fee. If there is a 20% payday at the end, that’s great, but in the meantime the managers collect a cushy 2% management fee. We believe these incentives make venture capital today less of an indicator for innovation than in the past.)

2. There is a disconnect between the exponential technological growth and progress on one side and the stagnant median wage on the other. (he acknowledges that the question of progress of the median wage depends on whether you believe that the government over- or understates inflation)

3. The demographic development does not favor innovation

Thiel then steps back to the 1960s and how commentators then saw the year 2000. Back then, the year 2000 promised permanent bases on the moon as well as manned missions to Mars. Increased productivity would lead to seven hour workdays and 13 weeks of paid vacation. But none of these forecasts came true.

Thiel fast forwards to 2009 and claims that the credit crisis is primarily a technology crisis, or a crisis of innovation. Credit is a claim on the future, and if there is no progress, you will not get paid on your claims. The technology bubble was a sign of hope in the power of innovation. When that bubble burst in 2000 we added leverage to the system to offset the effects of the bursting. When still no growth materialized by 2008, markets collapsed.

Over the last 200 years growth has averaged 8% per year. This was driven primarily by innovation. If you look back at other time periods like the 1300s to 1500s there was no growth at all. Thiel wonders what would happen if we were suddenly to enter a long no-growth zone. This would have catastrophic effects. In order to meet retirement needs everyone would have to work to 80 and the savings rate would have to approach 40%.

To top off his bearish forecast, Thiel suggests that investments in large cap tech companies are actually bets against technological progress. Microsoft (MSFT) will do well if there is no disruption from technology. Therefore, investments are actually stacked against innovation.

During the Q&A session a Bloomberg reporter asked the inevitable question about Clarium’s YTD 10% loss. Thiel responds that he was mistaken to focus on the real economy and overweight equities. Clarium did not expect the financial economy to read the real economy in a bullish way. The decoupling occurred because volatility declined, mostly through the help of the government which took risk out of the system, and because the Chinese stimulus was big enough to actually have an effect which percolated to the rest of the world. For the near future, he sees little prospect for volatility to decline more and thinks that China will begin to reign in growth.

Disclosure: Thomas Kirchner manages the Pennsylvania Avenue Event-Driven Fund (PAEDX). He is the author of the book Merger Arbitrage: How to Profit from Event-Driven Arbitrage (Wiley Finance, 2009).

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One Response to Clarium’s Peter Thiel Is Bearish On Innovation

  1. Chuck says:

    I can argue that CDOs and CDS are technological innovations. I haven’t looked into it, but I don’t think that Paypal lead to an increase in GDP.

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